Starting a NON ADCI dive school. Veteran Owned and Operated Looking for input. - cDiver.net2024-03-29T07:50:30Zhttp://community.cdiver.net/forum/topics/starting-a-non-adci-dive?feed=yes&xn_auth=noFirst thing Willy told me whe…tag:community.cdiver.net,2014-08-05:2371245:Comment:2003002014-08-05T11:10:14.596ZDavid D Hardenhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/DavidDHarden
<p>First thing Willy told me when I graduated was, congrats, you are now an unemployed diver, if your lucky, 1-3 yrs as a tender. I got lucky and jumped the 1st week in the gulf, lots of offshoot companies started then. Only time I tended was after I was a sat tech/ chamber op and the company I worked for transferred me to another vessel. They wanted me to be a betty tender on that vessel after 4yrs with them diving/ shop foreman and sat teching. Needless to say, I walked, went to mexico, sat…</p>
<p>First thing Willy told me when I graduated was, congrats, you are now an unemployed diver, if your lucky, 1-3 yrs as a tender. I got lucky and jumped the 1st week in the gulf, lots of offshoot companies started then. Only time I tended was after I was a sat tech/ chamber op and the company I worked for transferred me to another vessel. They wanted me to be a betty tender on that vessel after 4yrs with them diving/ shop foreman and sat teching. Needless to say, I walked, went to mexico, sat on the beach for a week, returned stateside and started my own company for harvesting sea food and in water boat maint. Willy was my mentor in school even if he denies it. You will not hear BS out of his mouth about diving.</p>
<p></p> I am glad after the Navy I wa…tag:community.cdiver.net,2014-08-05:2371245:Comment:2004872014-08-05T10:56:22.571ZDavid D Hardenhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/DavidDHarden
<p>I am glad after the Navy I was a student of Sly, he is the most knowledgeable dive instructor or diver my sorry bubbleass has had the pleasure of meeting, and I met a shitload, Mikey Thorton was another great instructor I had, but different "diving" and if Sylvester ever comes to the Philippines for vacation, the beer is on me. Had to put that out Willie, payback for finals where you gave me a mild heart attack. Because of Willy, I survived 6 companies in the gulf, my own small dive company…</p>
<p>I am glad after the Navy I was a student of Sly, he is the most knowledgeable dive instructor or diver my sorry bubbleass has had the pleasure of meeting, and I met a shitload, Mikey Thorton was another great instructor I had, but different "diving" and if Sylvester ever comes to the Philippines for vacation, the beer is on me. Had to put that out Willie, payback for finals where you gave me a mild heart attack. Because of Willy, I survived 6 companies in the gulf, my own small dive company and over 4000 logged dives. Some short some not. But his knowledge kept me safe. I thank you sir.</p>
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<p></p> Good morning David, My name…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-13:2371245:Comment:1297842011-06-13T14:15:51.823Zwilly Wilsonhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/willyWilson
Good morning David, My name is Willy Wilson I am a member in good standing of Piledrivers, wharf builders dock builders and divers local 196 in Seattle. for over twenty years I and many others have been trying to get a program statred for the divers. I have worked with Lou Rioux of 1456 of NY, Dan Kuhs of 56 out of Boston, Vince Rainier from 2696 ( now local 196) and things seem to get mired in the politics of the "big guns". The problem as I see it is the Brotherhood is controled by the…
Good morning David, My name is Willy Wilson I am a member in good standing of Piledrivers, wharf builders dock builders and divers local 196 in Seattle. for over twenty years I and many others have been trying to get a program statred for the divers. I have worked with Lou Rioux of 1456 of NY, Dan Kuhs of 56 out of Boston, Vince Rainier from 2696 ( now local 196) and things seem to get mired in the politics of the "big guns". The problem as I see it is the Brotherhood is controled by the carpenters of which none of them were or are divers. Each local seems to be dpoing it's own thing. that is not a bad thing but somehow we have to get the National behind us for the funding for the collective locals. I have been in the instructional field for over forty years, so I have a pretty good idea what a diver needs or what an individual needs to become a diver. ??????????
tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-11:2371245:Comment:1290942011-06-11T13:59:23.175ZJerry Babinhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/JerryBabin
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<p> </p> Oh wait so we shouldn't be hi…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-11:2371245:Comment:1291842011-06-11T13:12:00.349ZDaniel Gonzalezhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/DanielGonzalez
Oh wait so we shouldn't be hiring convicts and loosers? Whow what a concept!!!!!
Oh wait so we shouldn't be hiring convicts and loosers? Whow what a concept!!!!! All I have to say to that is…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-11:2371245:Comment:1290922011-06-11T13:09:22.669ZDaniel Gonzalezhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/DanielGonzalez
All I have to say to that is look up a man named Jeff Powers!!!
All I have to say to that is look up a man named Jeff Powers!!! Ok let me clarify a few thing…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-11:2371245:Comment:1290002011-06-11T13:03:58.704ZDaniel Gonzalezhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/DanielGonzalez
Ok let me clarify a few things. When National bought the school they sill had instructors like Gerson, Todd Meloy, and Lamar Howard. Lamar Howard is a former SWRMC diver for the USN and has more experience than anyone Ive ever met. He tought me everyting I know. These are some of the most elite military and law enforcement divers in the world. I recomend you get in touch with Lamar if you want to be sucesful in telling the ADC to go jump off a bridge. This man has the location knowledge and…
Ok let me clarify a few things. When National bought the school they sill had instructors like Gerson, Todd Meloy, and Lamar Howard. Lamar Howard is a former SWRMC diver for the USN and has more experience than anyone Ive ever met. He tought me everyting I know. These are some of the most elite military and law enforcement divers in the world. I recomend you get in touch with Lamar if you want to be sucesful in telling the ADC to go jump off a bridge. This man has the location knowledge and backing to make it happen. if you have questions hit me back. im on shore for another week. I think it would be in your best interest to talk to my boys. They have been there done that and they love divers and will help you out. God bless. Thanks the general Idea would…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-10:2371245:Comment:1290822011-06-10T13:56:08.156ZJerry Babinhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/JerryBabin
<p>Thanks the general Idea would be that oil people would be interested, however when every fish that sees Men of Honor thinks he/she can beat Billy Sunday, its hard to weed out trash until they are on deck. We will only card the best, and they will be Divers not Tender/Divers.</p>
<p>Legally you cannot deny access to any student wanting to learn (ADA & Education access laws) everyone is entitled to attend, however graduation and a card is not a right and there are some schools who allow…</p>
<p>Thanks the general Idea would be that oil people would be interested, however when every fish that sees Men of Honor thinks he/she can beat Billy Sunday, its hard to weed out trash until they are on deck. We will only card the best, and they will be Divers not Tender/Divers.</p>
<p>Legally you cannot deny access to any student wanting to learn (ADA & Education access laws) everyone is entitled to attend, however graduation and a card is not a right and there are some schools who allow recycles (some next day returns) iif they pay a "FEE" I am trying to recreate a Military training environment that will give students a want to learn or D.O.R. attitude. I have friends in the oil business who cannot wait until the first batch gets marketed to the GOM. The ADC will only survive as long as we support it. As divers, we have an obligation to return it to doing what it really is, being a Walmart for the Diving industry.</p> with over 20 years in the bus…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-10:2371245:Comment:1288852011-06-10T13:45:29.897ZJerry Babinhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/JerryBabin
<p>with over 20 years in the business and half of that in the GOM ( where I started) I thing I have the knowledge. As a Marine, I will only allow the best to carry our card ( Definately not ADCI, as I will not pay tribute to Cesar) The Navy Dive Program is paid for by our tax dollars and far surpasses what is taught in most schools. And from what I hear through the grapevine the OGP is about had enough of the ADCI and their outdated grabtactics.</p>
<p>I have it on GOVERNMENT authority, that…</p>
<p>with over 20 years in the business and half of that in the GOM ( where I started) I thing I have the knowledge. As a Marine, I will only allow the best to carry our card ( Definately not ADCI, as I will not pay tribute to Cesar) The Navy Dive Program is paid for by our tax dollars and far surpasses what is taught in most schools. And from what I hear through the grapevine the OGP is about had enough of the ADCI and their outdated grabtactics.</p>
<p>I have it on GOVERNMENT authority, that there is no reason other than the silence of the divers that the ADCI is considered "THE GOVERNING BODY" and the voice of the Commercial Diving industry. That is about to change. We are setting up a 50/50 program (1/2 day in classroom, 1/ day in the water)</p> Oh, one other thought. Why do…tag:community.cdiver.net,2011-06-10:2371245:Comment:1289872011-06-10T06:05:58.367ZCharles Hinsonhttp://community.cdiver.net/profile/CharlesHinson
Oh, one other thought. Why do these dive schools take whatever walks in the door. You know, professional sports teams go out and recruit the best. I know alot of young men that are more than qualified to work in the offshore oil industry, with oilfield experience, that would be interested in being a professional deep sea diver. Why not go after them? Then you are giving the "diving" instructors something to work with right off the bat, and offering the diving contractors and the overall…
Oh, one other thought. Why do these dive schools take whatever walks in the door. You know, professional sports teams go out and recruit the best. I know alot of young men that are more than qualified to work in the offshore oil industry, with oilfield experience, that would be interested in being a professional deep sea diver. Why not go after them? Then you are giving the "diving" instructors something to work with right off the bat, and offering the diving contractors and the overall industry, a superior product. Getting them financed is another fuction of the business. If you need a recruiter, let me know. I'm in the heart of the California oil industry, and was a deep sea diver in the Gulf of Mexico.