This sounds great...I'm taking a little break now, and I have a s***load of pilings left, so I will be sure to experiment a bit more. Look at the diagram that Flynn drew up. I have used his method all morning...and I have to say that it is a very efficient way to go about this. Hopefully, by the time I am finished with this job, I'll be able to shoot some decent ideas to all of you guys and reciprocate a little bit.